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May 14, 2005

What's bad for us makes us smarter?

I'm moving this post over from the backup blog, because it has generated some interesting comments. I've moved the comments over as well, using the linked Blogger profiles and any email address on that site as the url/email for the comments here. If no email was linked, I used an email address that goes to me, as I have not yet reconfigured my comments to not require some email address. If anyone would like me to change the url/email to something else, just let me know.

Check out this review of a book called "Everything Bad is Good For You" by Steven Johnson. The book talks about how we are in general smarter today, even with our indulgence in video games and TV. In fact, he thinks that it is the TV and video games that are making us smarter.

It's an interesting idea. I quit worrying about my kids and computer games long ago. They play on the computer every day. They play games like "Civilization," in which they game historical scenarios, over and over again. For instance, while we read about the Revolutionary War, Connor went to his computer every day and gamed the war from different angles. Sometimes he was the Americans. Sometimes the British. Sometimes the French. Sometimes Cornwallis would be killed early in the game. Sometimes key battles would go to the other side. He got to play with ideas, to see one version of "What would have happened if ...?"

Is this bad for my child's brain? Hardly.

(Conversely, "Civilization" has at times paved the way for our historical studies. "Napoleon? We have a scenario about him! He was French ...")


I had never thought about TV helping us to be smarter, though. Johnson's theory is that TV is so much more complex these days, demanding more and more from the viewer, that it helps our brains to make connections and stay active. I'm sure that doesn't hold true for my kids' daily dose of Cartoon Network (Or does it? Someone tell me it does, quick!), but he makes an interesting point. TV is far more complex today than it used to be. The viewer is often asked to keep track of multiple, shifting plotlines, to form hypotheses, and to generally be mentally engaged in the story. "Lost" is a prime example of this type of show. (And by the way, did anyone notice that Kate and Tom made that tape on 8/15? Hmmm??)

I'm not ready to say that TV can help my children's brains, but he makes some good points. I don't know, though, how kids with extremely limited TV/video game access compare. Maybe we're all just getting smarter because we have plenty of nutritious food, good medical care, and leisure time, and as a result we seek/create more complex entertainment. Or both.

Posted by lynx at May 14, 2005 12:44 PM

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M. sent me a link to "Watching TV Makes You Smarter" (S. Johnson writing for the NYT) a week or so ago:

http://mentalmultivitamin.blogspot.com/2005/05/from-email-bag.html

After reading the piece, I decided I needed to read Johnson's book. He also penned Mind Wide Open, which Mr. M-mv and I both enjoyed. So I'm reading and nodding along in places, when, suddenly, I ask myself, "Isn't this reverse intellectual snobbery?"

Enjoy a good weekend.

P.S. Have you been following the news about the Lincoln Park Zoo? This wonderful Chicago must-see is the subject of much controversy in the wake of a number of inexplicable animal deaths.

Posted by: � 2003-2005 m-mv at May 14, 2005 12:55 PM

I'm so glad that there is something "substantial" now to back up my thoughts about TV viewing and learning. I don't know what I would do without Discovery Kids programming, History Channel, and yes, even Food TV.

I liked Johnson's points - but like you I'm not ready to say that TV will "help" my children's brains. If I had to choose between video games and TV, I'd choose TV. For us, I see learning connections made while/after viewing many real life scenes (as opposed to cartoon drawings in text books), and story plots built around tours of a country, the people, food, and artifacts. In a historical text book, you read and conjure up the images on your own. With TV you often get the best known to date image of the era, the landscape, and in the scenes view the technology, food and work involved during that era. It's just much more rich imo.

Posted by: concierge services at May 14, 2005 12:56 PM

"Smarter" being relative, the difference is between explicit and collateral learning. Is one more valuable than the other? One is content, one is problem solving, so they're obviously both important. I think studying logic bridges the gap between the two types of learning.

What attracts me to classical education is the gut feeling that we have lost so much knowledge, that people educated in that way were so much smarter than we are today, and a classical ed. offers a chance to recover some of that lost wisdom.

I have to wonder how well the ancient philosophers and Renaissance scholars would have done on IQ tests. I'm pretty sure they would have been able to figure out a video game after a few tries, but how many of the kids who can master Grand Theft Auto will ever reach the intellectual levels of the great thinkers?

Posted by: l at May 14, 2005 12:57 PM

Glad you're back!

Gina

Posted by: Gina at May 14, 2005 10:51 PM

I hope there aren't too many kids playing Grand Theft Auto. I'm no prude and even I found some of that game disturbing. Didn't stop me from playing though :)

I think it's the synthesis of multiple entertainment channels that leads to learning. My sons reads about WWII, watches the History Channel, and them spends hours mastering Medal Of Honor on the PS2. All that together adds up to a lot of learning.

Posted by: Chris at May 15, 2005 3:56 PM

l,

I guess we'll see, won't we? Ian, from Open Texture, frequently argues that computer games help children's brains develop. I can easily understand his reasoning. I would imagine that it really depends on how those kids who are Grand Theft Auto whizzes spend the rest of their time.

M,

I was wondering how much reverse intellectual snobbery he was engaging in. I'm going to have to read this book. And thanks for the tip about the zoo. I hadn't heard. I'm saddened to know that the elephants are gone, especially.

Posted by: Stephanie at May 15, 2005 9:53 PM

Interesting idea, but as you said, increased IQ (which doesn't necessarily mean smarter) could come from any number of factors. What evidence does this guy have that it's TV/video game related, I wonder?

I find amusing his disdain of books as being passive/non-interactive and anti-social in nature, just having the narrative revealed to you without a chance to change the outcome, etc., while at the same time lauding the watching of television. Television is also a narrative in which the viewer has no chance to change the outcome, instead just having the writer's story revealed to you, and can be both passive and anti-social in nature.

I would add, that a good book is no more passive than a good TV show. It engages the mind in the same way: following multiple complex characters in a complex story, filling in what is unsaid, thinking ahead about multiple possibilities, and so on. But with a book, you must create the pictures yourself, using your imagination. I think that is far more intellectually stimulating than having the images just given to you.


"And by the way, did anyone notice that Kate and Tom made that tape on 8/15?"

What's the significance of that?


Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 1:38 PM

Brian,

I nearly wept when I read what he said about reading. The reviewer said the author was joking, and I certainly hope so. Yes, how would an engaging, thought-provoking TV show make you think any more than a thought-provoking book?

8/15 ... it's another instance of Hurley's numbers. (Those of you who don't watch Lost, just let your eyes glaze over here.)

Posted by: Stephanie at May 16, 2005 1:50 PM

Steph,

If he was joking, it didn't come across in the reading.

More on Lost's numbers if you haven't seen it already. For example, the flight number was also 815. Just scroll down to "Analysis".

Posted by: Brian at May 16, 2005 6:31 PM

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