One Sixteenth

There's a part of me that wants to say, "Well, duh!" :)

Arwen did have a scene or two in FOTR, but not by much. Most everything about her is spoken. I have had no problems with bringing Arwen forward a bit. Of course, the Aragorn/Eowyn is being played up a bit more in the movies as well. Aragorn had no interest in Eowyn.

The Immasculation of Aragorn, though, is still grating. It's whiny Luke Skywalker all over again: "I don't WANT to be the king"

Yeah, I know it's a "duh" moment. But really, I didn't get that that was the reason.

I never minded Arwen showing up in more of the movie - after all, it's all in the backstory. I just never figured out the necessity for those scenes in terms of movie construction.

Thankfully Aragorn is not NEARLY as whiny as Luke :) But I don't see why Jackson had to do that. Okay, it makes for some good character development, but it's not like the story is otherwise lacking in that department.

I don't know what you are talking about. I loved Aragorn in the movie. He is exactly how I pictured him being. I liked that they played up the Aragorn/Eowyn parts. Although I don't like Arwen at all, I see why they added her stuff. All in all, I thought that it was a great move.

The Necessity for the Arwen stuff was that otherwise, like the books, Arwen would come out of the blue and mary Aragorn. We would see the Aragorn/Eowin interactions and wonder why they did not get together.

Hello anonymous poster :)

Have you read the books? The Aragorn in the books knows he's king and doesn't shy away from it; movie Aragorn is unsure of himself in that respect and doesn't want to be king.

So yes, for many people who are fans of the books first, the change in Aragorn is annoying.

I did like Arwen in the movie but again, this is a big change from the book. I liked movie Arwen, and I think Liv Tyler did a great job; but I don't like what Peter Jackson did to that storyline. I really think they could have worked Arwen into the tale in a different way, one that didn't involve, say, Aragorn dumping her and trying to sneak out of Rivendell while she was sleeping. Book Aragorn simply wouldn't have done that, just like book Sam would never have left Frodo, no matter what Frodo said.

Anonymous poster #2 - (unless you're the same people):

Yes, that was exactly my point.

I think Aragorn is great as well as the movie itself. Those who don’t like him don’t know him – just visit http://www.lord-of-the-rings.org/books/aragorn.html .

Time for a lesson.

"Those who don't like him don't know him." That, my friend, is what is known as an opinion. Your opinion is that everyone must like Aragorn; if they don't, they just don't know much about his character. Once they do, they will see the error of their ways.

And yet, not everyone likes Aragorn. Not even diehard-book-fans-for-the-past-eleventy-one-years. You can do that, see. You can know a character very well, but not like him. Anyone can do that. That's called having an opinion. Not everyone will like all characters. Even the admirable ones.

I, on the other hand, do admire Aragorn. I do, however, like book-Aragorn better than movie-Aragorn. There is a difference, and yes, that's okay. Book-Aragorn is not perfect, but I prefer his flaws to the flaws that Jackson invented for him for the movies. For instance, once of the changes Jackson made that drives me NUTS is that he has Aragorn decide to not accept Arwen's choice; instead he effectively dumps her. This is 120% contrary to book-Aragorn's character. Wouldn't have happened. End of story.

Do you like that twist in the tale? Okay. I don't. That's my opinion.

That there are differences between the book character and the movie character is, on the other hand, actual fact. If you don't see those differences, perhaps you should read the book.